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posted by: PastorDave (reply) post date: 08.15.06 (7:44 pm) So, where do we go to get "real" news these days? Obviously, the quoted journalist has an agenda that skews his reporting. And surely a conservative journalist would do the same. What happened to the idea of reporting being fair and balanced, without a personal agenda? Is it impossible? posted by: (reply) post date: 08.16.06 (11:16 am) "a *lot* of Family Men have put on a uniform, taken up arms, and faught and died to give you the right to make an absolute ass of yourself." Your entire outlook is made up of the idea that taking up those arms was the right thing to do. You're as far gone as the people who astound you and you can't even see it. Your selfrighteousness is apparent. So sure you're right and absolutely convinced that others are wrong. I hope 14 year olds stay away from the internet too, but for a much different reason. posted by: thoolou (reply) post date: 08.16.06 (2:09 pm) OK, my nameless, faceless worthy opponent, let's break down your "argument." First off, a "Straw Man" argument, followed by a "Tu Quoque." Compelling. For the sake of amusement, let us proceed. My assertion was that many gave the ultimate sacrifice to ensure free speech and liberty to this country. Your Staw Man about "taking up those arms was the right thing to do", is a common logical fallicy. Was taking up arms against the Brittish to win our independance the right thing to do? Was defending ourselves against the Axis Powers in WWII the right thing to do? Much depends on yourt point of view, but I *know* there are times one must defend oneself, one's family, and one's country. If you fail to see that, then I pity you. Secondly, your second argument, "You're as far gone as the people who astound you" is a Red Herring. "I can't refute your argument, so I'll say that 'you're just as bad!'". Of course, none of this matters to most people, becaused they have been indoctrinated with the "I feeeeel this is so, therefore it must be so" mindset. Regardless of your opinion of the war against Islamofascism, your feelings have nothing to do with historical events. OK, quiz time: Since you appear to feel that the current conflict is the wron course of action, what is your solution? Negotiations? Fine. You are sitting across a table from the "President" of Iran, who wants to convert every human being on the planet to Islamism by whatever means necessary. He has publicly and repeatedly called for the absolute destruction of Israel and all Jews. What do you say to him? posted by: (reply) post date: 08.18.06 (2:09 pm) You're a tool. I'd say the same thing to him that I'd say to Sharon or Olmert. The point is that there is no good guy or bad guy in this. You are clearly pro-Israel and anti-Muslim. There's not much difference between a leader who declares he's going to obliterate his enemy and one whose actions produce the same intent. You're so busy labeling your arguments and counterpoints that you're missing the bus. Stop trying to make Israel out to be the good guys. They're not. posted by: devon (reply) post date: 08.18.06 (5:03 pm) You fall back on history alot thoulou, and in doing so make a greivous error. You assume that documented history is in fact correct. The history books that you take as truth are skewed perspectives that only serve the political agendas of those who are in power. Remember, it's the conquerers who write your history. History does *NOT* equal truth. |
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