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AND YOU THINK OBAMA IS NOT A FACTOR HERE?
11.21.08 (11:20 am)   [edit]

The stock market was down another 400 points or so yesterday. People are wondering where in the world this will end. Retirement funds are being devastated. People are losing jobs. The picture certainly isn't rosy right now, and nobody can really explain why. The media, on the other hand, is certain that there is one recent event that is having no effect whatsoever on this economic slide; and that would be the election of Barack Obama.

OK ... why don't you try to put on an investor hat for a moment here. Let's say you're considering getting back in the stock market. You know that some stocks out there are at historic lows, and they're bound to bounce back ... right? So why don't you just take some money out of your savings or out from under your mattress and plow it back into the market?

Let's see if we can find any reasons why you might hesitate.

We have a president-elect who ...

... has promised to raise capital gains taxes, perhaps even double them. So this guy is just waiting for you to jump into the stock market and make some money so he can seize a huge portion of it. Why jump now? Obama has been asked if he plans to go forward with his capital gains tax increase, but he's not saying. Just hold off on your investments for a while until he tips his hand. If he goes the tax increase route you might want to consider trying to move your money offshore to grow until he's out of the picture.

... has promised to sign the so-called "Card Check" bill. Now again, you're smarter than the average voter, and you realize that this unionization-through-inti midation idea is going to have an adverse affect on American business. As soon as the bill is signed union thugs (organizers) will start their petition drives at thousands of businesses across the nation. Large businesses and small businesses. America's largest employer, Wal-Mart, will be one of the first targets. You don't know how far this will spread, but you do know that every business that is unionized will be a poor investment for you. So you wait .. you wait to see what is going to happen with card check.

... has promised to raise income taxes on the largest jobs producing segment of our economy, small businesses. During the campaign you heard him say that he would not raise taxes on 95% of small businesses, but you know that most of the jobs rest with the remaining 5%, and that's where most of the new jobs would be created. The ignorant voters bought his 95% line, but you're not that stupid. You saw through his rhetoric. So, again, why jump into the market now? Wait until we see what Obama is going to do with these tax increases on America's jobs-producing machine.

... has promised more business regulation. Obama is no fan of free enterprise. He loves government. Obama believes America is great because of government. You really think you need to wait before you make your investment moves until you see just what regulatory punishment Obama has in mind for the free market.

So .. think about it. We've only scratched the surface here. We could also talk about expanding the family leave act and many other little federal anti-business goodies. Invest now? Why? Doesn't it make more sense to wait until you get a true measure of our new anti-capitalist president?

Nealz Nuze

 


posted by: barnabus1 (reply)
post date: 11.24.08 (2:24 pm)

So far Walmart has closed every store where they voted in a union!! Would they do it nationally? my bet is yes!!! They have closed some very large stores over this!!



posted by: PastorDave (reply)
post date: 11.24.08 (7:18 pm)

I'm not sure Obama is the reason. With all of the tax dollars being passed out by the Bush administration to flailing corporations, I do not see how a so-called liberal Democrat would do things much differently. I'm very disappointed with the state of conservatism, if Bush is our representative. We'll not see much of a difference, fiscally, with Obama. The people who know money much better than myself realize this. I'm afraid we are in for some very tough times for the next several years.



posted by: surrogate (reply)
post date: 11.24.08 (7:19 pm)

So, let me understand. People are worried about paying capital gains taxes, so they won't want to bother making a profit. Brilliant. You're not a businessman are you? I've been in business for thirty-five years and I've yet to pay any capital gains taxes on any investment unless and until I made UNEARNED income. Plus, as the simple minded just don't understand, a corporation doesn't pay capital gains until the take the money OUT of the corporation. The lack of logic displayed in the column above is laughable. Decent CPA's RARELY allow corporations to pay many capital gains taxes. Goodness, even individuals can avoid them with some forthought - and without cheating.

Talk about a red herring. I'm not surprised you buy this bull, but it still baffles me.



posted by: surrogate (reply)
post date: 11.25.08 (6:34 am)

"... has promised to raise income taxes on the largest jobs producing segment of our economy, small businesses. During the campaign you heard him say that he would not raise taxes on 95% of small businesses, but you know that most of the jobs rest with the remaining 5%, and that's where most of the new jobs would be created. The ignorant voters bought his 95% line, but you're not that stupid. You saw through his rhetoric. So, again, why jump into the market now? Wait until we see what Obama is going to do with these tax increases on America's jobs-producing machine."

Um... so the top five percent of small business create the bulk of the jobs... Okay. This, of course make absolutely NO sense, and isn't in the least true, but that doesn't matter, does it?

I wonder if you'll report on yesterday market news too. Twelve percent rise on the heels of Obama simply explaining a bit of what he plans to do. Probably doesn't help your argument, so you'll ignore it - or it'll end up being just a quirk, right?

Tell me, I'm dying to know. Have you ever run a business? When it failed, was it the fault of the evil liberals?



posted by: KurtMaddox (reply)
post date: 11.26.08 (3:29 pm)

What a silly argument! Do you have any idea how many anecdotal arguments I could make that would demonstrate the exact opposite? In fact, the much stronger anecdotal argument makes the case that the markets are responding positively to Obama.

So, the Bush Admin nearly collapses the global financial system and you believe the markets are down because Obama might modify the tax code a couple of percent for people making $250K or more?

If only Paul Volker, Larry Summers and Tim Giethner had access to your data then they'd really understand what is going on! lol!

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